fundamentalist approaches to islam. and it was in that group, there's obviously a tiny minority, but this is a minority that many people know about. and yes, the witnesses we spoke to were not -- they were terrified. they were not expecting to find themselves waking up to a war zone outside their door this morning. but they weren't totally surprised by the ties between this neighborhood and back in paris. >> the pictures that we're looking at right now, ben, are quite calm, i imagine, to what you all saw. i understand that you have some video that you and your team shot a little earlier that was a little more intense. >> yeah, this was -- we were just standing, watching the operations seemingly wind down. the cops relaxed in their posture a little bit. and then all of a sudden out of the blue, these four police officers in full riot gear, guns