>> i think ted cruz is having a good night being ted cruz. he's someone who knows how to dedebate. he knows his market and is going after it. and i think john kasich is smart to go after donald trurp. i think people should do it more. i think donald trump, when you attack him, he looks small. and he should attack him for his smallness. >> he's going after him, as is jeb bush a lit bit, over this deporting of the mexican immigrants, sending 11 million back and how that's inhumane. but i've got to say, to that audience, this is not what they want to hear. i mean, am i -- tell us from the inside republican perspective how that's playing, let's say, outside of the theatre where they're doing this debate, because you're not going to get any cheers in that audience by going against trump on that immigrati immigration. >> that's one of the dangers of