you, i had never been to paris until like a year ago. and the bread -- just the bread. i mean, i know i'm at an age and a woman you're not supposed to eat all those carbohydrates. but there's something about the carbohydrates in france that just makes them irresistible. >> bread eaten abroad has no carbohydrates value. >> there you go. >> that's the rule. i need a good book to read. can you recommend one? >> you know, i have read a series of books that were historical novels about josephine bonaparte that were fantastic. they are historical fiction but it's accurate. and i love the series of books because you saw the strength of this woman and how incredibly smart she was and how important she was to napoleon. and so i'm not going to be able to tell you the author right off the top of my head. >> a series of historical books about -- >> three -- one is dancing