move that the u.s. makes has ramifications that perhaps the u.s. wouldn't want. >> nbc's keir simmons with a unique perspective for us this afternoon and spending sometime recently alongside fighter there is in syria, thank you, my friend. >> you bet. joining me now to talk about the foreign policy, retired navy commander criss harmon, a senior naval ianalyst and anthony cordsman, center for strategic and international studies. thank you to you both. >> let's start with you, if i could, commander. this idea that the stated u.s. strategy is to degrade and defeat isis, what does today's announcement do for that stated goal? >> nothing whatsoever. look. i agree with the goal of degrading and defeating isis but the asets against the problem are wholly inadequate. look at it in four and a half