walk over to where she landed. it's the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen apartment fact the sheriff is waiting to review the tape that he is not outraged is the most ridiculous thing i've ever hearded. >> all right. todd rotherford and niya kenny, thank you very much for coming on tonight and being so clear and poised. it's impressive. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> thanks. >> all right. joining me now the former st. louis police officer co-founder national coalition of law enforcement officers for justice, reform and accountability. and kimberly crenshaw professor of law at ucla and columbia. kimberly, i feel like i need to process what i just heard. >> i do, too. i do too. >> i don't know. it's very -- it's sort of a remarkable -- if there is a single small upside it's this niya thing was not standard practice. >> that's the only upside. first i have to say, congratulations and thank you to niya for actually standing up.