this is his wheelhouse. he needs to come out and say specifically what he will do for small businesses in america and for people trying to make it by. i think you'll hear him really needle jeb bush. you'll hear attacks at carson but he'll go after jeb bush. >> mark mckinnon what your looking for? >> the way to go after trump, particularly if i was jeb would be to go with humor. just try to needle him back in a way with light and levity. >> mr. bush has to show what he promised when he first ran. he hasn't done the fun part. interesting -- >> i don't think he does. >> this is why i'm going into it pup got to show you're enjoying the process. the supreme court justice once said no president is good unless he enjoys the job and has fun in it. my husband told that to president kennedy when he was running.