club for growth is getting here. they're trying to put together a super pac. the club for growth, there's a lot of overlap between that group and the donors for the koch brothers. it will be interestinged to see if they get engaged or if they sit this one out and let the republican nomination move forward. but it's as close as interesting as paul ryan running for speaker. >> the club for growth has its own polling in iowa and they say their ads there have pushed trump down to below ben carson. they have the most cent poll in iowa at october 34. they showed trump at 16 we're going to have to wait for more reliable polls if the koch brothers don't want donald trump, if the massive world of republican money doesn't want donald trump, why has that money, all that activism, all