that he would be joining us on october the 8th. as the date drew closer him and his campaign advisers decided to opt out. i'd rather spend my time, chris, talking about serious candidates and about people who value the opinion of america's burgeoning hispanic community. clearly, this fella believes that he can get to the white house without the hispanic vote. we're about to see whether that's the case or not. i'd rather talk about people who matter and people who actually have a shot at becoming the president of the united states and who take this process as seriously as it should be taken. >> who counts in that category to your mind? >> you know, i think that we're blessed to have a variety of candidates on both sides of the aisle. you know, on the republican side i've had the pleasure of spending time with john kasich, with -- certainly with jeb bush, who was with us about three weeks ago.