i don't think obama was. >> obama could not be because he had to strategically navigate the waters to become president of the united states. they understood if they talked about race his chances of being president of the united states would be nil because the issue of race polarizing. being a woman is different. both groups have had struggles but she has more leeway for women who fought for equal pay. >> let me ask you about that question. hillary wants it to be an issue. is it mart to put it out front like she did with a smile? very breezy. but i don't think she did that when she was with mark pen doing the same thing. >> like eight years ago she was scared of showing her fem ninity. she is a history-making candidate. she will be the first woman