other candidates and certainly most other candidates she's faced in her career. would you expect her to try to emphasize that tomorrow night? >> yes, i would. >> i mean, the risk -- the risk of it being you can start to sound a little in the weeds and a little boring. >> right. and a little establishment. >> yeah. >> it would be a major mistake for her to do that. i think her strength is her strength. >> yeah. >> she's got to project the core essence of who she is which is an extremely strong leader and a strong woman. and someone who can speak authentically at a time when voters, democrats and republicans, are looking for that authenticity. polysubstance does not equal authenticity at this time. emotion, character, forcefulness, direct communication and an honest answer to questions, those are the kinds of factors that i think are shining through. and that's true for bernie sanders especially. >> and, yeah, margie, that is -- that's what bernie sanders is running on basically, is i'll tell it to you straight, i'll give you the absolutely