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sharing a little bit that i can, to give you a little taste of sometimes, the way that people feel. yes, they'll talk down about no more top-down leadership and we want things like regular order and the wonky areas of that. however, i have worked with some of the members in the freedom caucus, that at times, when we had legislation, that we worked together on, there was one member in particular, in my office, i'm not going to call names, but who actually, when we began to have success with it, and leadership blessed our legislation to go to the floor for approval, once leadership signed off on it, this particular member of congress said, you know what, i don't think i want to do it anymore, because i don't trust them. >> yeah, that -- >> as ridiculous as this sounds, chris, i don't want to plug your own book on your own show, but this is exactly like your book reads. "twilight of the elites." where the american public is so fed up and members of congress are so fed up with anything institutional, they reject it. soy think that what you have now on the left, you've got bernie sanders, who's not even a

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