governing majority that could do things for instance like discard the so-called hastert rule? >> well, listen, a republican charlie dent said that on national tv today. and i think my leadership is open to that. i think what we all want is we want good government and we do not want the crazies to block that anymore in the future. >> how long do you see this playing out, and are you worried about the fact we have a debt ceiling coming up, a debt ceiling deadline, although those tend to be a little soft coming up? >> we now have a temporary artificial equilibrium. right now temporarily we have boehner in charge and we have mccarthy in charge. but obviously that's not going to last very long. i think the current leadership such as it is will get us past these difficulties that are imminent but that doesn't tell you what's going to happen in the future. my guess is is jim mcdeform ott is going to be the next speaker of the house. he's a psychiatrist. he ran a large psychiatric ward. and that's the skill set you need to run the house. >> always a pleasure, congressman grayson. thank you very much. >> thank you.