they actually have a personal rapport. but i am curious, he's not known as sort of a firebrand conservative. why are conservatives so comfortable with him? is it just what he did on iran? >> he's an national security conservative. he serves on the benghazi committee. everybody who serves on the benghazi committee has earned the respect of the caucus because it has been so apolitical. and everyone on that committee, of course trey gowdy, jim jordan has gained respect throughout the caucus. while he would be a blue state republican, with a world on fire, that's a terrific advantage. as you know, if you've been a speaker of one body you know what it's like to get pulled in eight different directions. that will be a credential a lot of republicans will say that's experience we could use right