literally destroys the targets on the ground. they're enormous munitions and they destroy their target on the ground. they're very precise. one of the big questions we have here that no one can seem to answer and i don't know that maybe the pentagon and the u.s. military in afghanistan don't know yet, did they know it was a hospital when they were firing on it? did they get -- it is an ac-130. it is required to get a line of sight, it is required to have a visual, a target verification prior to striking d. that occur? did the ac-130 pilots and crew know that they were striking a hospital on the ground when they were given the information about the targeting? >> nbc's courtney kube at the pentagon, ron allen at the white house, thanks to you both. next hour the u.s. executive direct for or the doctors without borders. straight ahead, donald trump and hillary clinton hitting the swing states today. plus, new poll numbers and the