fraud in the united states by people who come over from cuba and then return back to cuba and exploit that as well. >> that's right. that's another exploitation of our laws, is at this open door that has very good intentions to welcome people who really are victims of persecution, has also allowed in criminals who have stolen more than $2 billion, we calculated, from american businesses and government programs like medicare. >> so they're able to steal that money, and then go back to cuba. and they're free in cuba? >> they are free. as a matter of fact, we found two fugitives living in cuba, very openly. one was wanted for stealing a truck from the federal reserve with $180,000 worth of nickels. and he's living freely in cuba and we believe there are hundreds of others. >> sally, thank you. great work, as always.