a lot of sand has been lost. property damage has been minimal and we haven't had the rain like they've had to the south. but you can get a sense of how worked up this atlantic is and this high tide has rearranged the coastline on virginia beach. fortunately the water is still warm, mid-70s and the air temperature the 74 so it's not as uncomfortable as it may seem from the pictures here as i get hit by the sea foam. >> that's always a question, how warm it is, how cool it is, you said you were there the last two or three days. can you walk to wear the shoreline was two or three days ago and where it is now? >> i can tell you when we came out here on thursday -- what is this sunday? i've lost track of days. it was out to about here. we've lost from that fenceline here we've lost about 15 to 18 feet of beach.