victims couldn't be saved. of course, they couldn't. this guy got on top of them so fast. some could. it's tragic we've got to do that but we're doing it. we're doing better at it. it's awful to say. but each one of us needs an individual plan, an individual plan in your mind, how you're going to react and act, what you're going to do. you need a collective plan, with a classroom, with your campus. you have to have a plan with the city, the county. the law enforcement needs a plan and the nation need ace plan. state needs a plan. the nation need ace plan. if you go in there with no personal plan it's not the time to think of it when the shots are fired. if the classroom doesn't have a plan to barricade the doors, shut the windows, call the location of the shooter in, that's no good. you need a plan. the campus needs a plan to alert everybody, et cetera. you can talk about it a long time. that's waet it has to go through. each step can save lives and each step we can interrupt along