of car you drive, what type of house you live in, how much money you got. that's kind of irrelevant in prison because it's a pecking order society. it's the strong, you know, and that's how you survive. >> before i met him, all i had was this image of this gruff, ripped guy who could take on the whole team of officers, and upon meeting him, i just was shocked to find out that he's actually kind of a calm and collected guy who is not this monster that you see on these cell extraction videos. >> i didn't even know how to turn the computer on until recently. >> what was most interesting to me about roy is he was just learning how to use a computer. and he had been told by everybody that he was somewhat famous thanks to the internet and these cell extractions that were on "lockup." >> it's kind of fascinating to be able to talk to some of these people that i meet online and stuff, you know, to help me to adjust back into society because they're not convicts. they're not in a pecking order state of mind. >> he was kind of excited by the fact that there were so many