unlike some other places where there are venues available for the pope to see the people and the people to see the pope, that's not happening here. when the pope comes out, traffic is stopped along here. i should tell you about an hour after the pope came back from the residence for lunch and maybe down time, there was a bus that came about 30 feet got off and went toward the residence. whether or not they met with the pope, we're not sure. we think they did. in addition, a bus with folks from the ronald mcdonald house, about 30 adults, 15 children, a boy on crutches, another with a surgical mask have gone through the security checkpoint. and then back on the bus. we are told that when the pope was about to come out that group is going to go over across the street and they hope have an opportunity to be seen and i'm sure they hope to be blessed we did pope. kate? >> you're standing on the street there as close as you can get but there's a closer location to