i said i have some suspicions why. at first, i was hoping that it was kind of a cat and mouse game, that they had a suspect. but it kind of hurt. you know, like i said, i had the power. i was a law enforcement officer technically. here i am, these law enforcement officers were doing my duty. so it kind of hurt a little bit. >> before long, rader in his self obsessed arrogance was talking up a storm and says in his interview with a psychologist, he was actually having a good time connecting to the police officers. >> during the intergax, it seems as though you were enjoys one of them at times. >> always, camaraderie. camaraderie. yeah. we talked shop. i know a lot of police terminology. i know how they do things. so, yeah, it's a kind of bonding type.