hours of the debate with the bit there that you played about mrs. bush being the exception, not the rule, i thought he was -- i don't want to say low energy but i thought he sounded like a politician. i thought he looked a little queasy generally in terms of engaging trump, like he knew he had to do it, he didn't really want to, didn't really have the heart for it. i thought in the last hour of the debate, he was quite good. the problem is you really want to be as good as you possibly can when the most eyeballs are on it. he certainly was not bad in this debate. i thought he was sort of mediocre and then moving toward good. i thought he got stronger as it went. maybe that's enough. i think he certainly did better than, for example, scott walker, the everyone governor of wiscone thought needed a big night, headline, show some energy, some fight, and didn't get it at all. >> and finally, hallie, what will donald trump be doing in rochester later today?