lot of the folks who we kind of thought were the republican front-runners a few months ago. talking about jeb bush, scott walker, marco rubio, chris christie, even john kasich. it is possible that we can end up seeing the outsiders clash with the outsiders and the insiders clash with the insiders. >> we talked in detail a bit earlier on the show about the new poll out today showing ben carson draining ground on trump. trump's numbers stayed fairly even, but scott walker and jeb bush are the ones that both fell quite a bit. do you think that's where carson is pulling his support from, rather than from trump himself? >> yeah. i think that that's one of the things that's gone on. we've talked about donald trump, we've talked about ben carson. to me the biggest poll results in that poll was scott walker at 2%. we are talking about the person who was seen as the overwhelming favorite and front-runner in the iowa. somebody who people thought would eventually go toe-to-toe with jeb bush down the stretch