of the victims are women and children so they're paying the price. >> i was looking at the comparative data, the u.s. i believe is the third highest per capita homicide rate. but a bunch of other crimes, burglaries, for instance, were right at the median. there is very strong evidence the one thing that separates us is just the availability of a glock handgun like the shooter in this case was able to get his hands on. >> you're absolutely right. we have astro no, ma'amally homicide and suicide rates. a significant part of that is the accessibility of guns in america. we don't even do back ground checks on all guns. back ground checks is not norm. and we have the culture that