matches up so much better against donald trump than hillary clinton, in just about every way and what's the one thing that joe bind does that like people have always criticized him for? he speaks his mind. he says things sometimes that he shouldn't say. i think he's good next to donald trump in that category. >> yes. >> david ignacious says very key to the washington post this morning. he says joe wide isn't trump without all the trumpness, which is to say he's authentic. speaks his mind. he has years in the senate. >> and getting stuff done. >> the white house has given joe biden room, it remains joe biden's decision, time, he has to get through with there, does joe biden go through it? he'll have to decide if he thinks the time is different. >> now to the heated rhetoric of