away from hillary clinton. and keep in mind elizabeth warren naturally should be a endorser of bernie sanders. she hasn't done that. i'm not so sure that the biden elizabeth warren teaming up publicly wouldn't actually be quite powerful. and yet joe biden is a liberal. >> professor care caroline, stack that with what you said earlier as him in regard as the poor perform attorney campaign trail. the eight years he's been in the white house he's redeemed himself and he's this road dog so he's hollering back and now he's pulling, if you will the orbit of all of those obama people in his way. do you think he has a real chance to get in? >> no. i think he's a weak candidate. but beyond that hillary clinton is still the candidate for the democratic party. and she is 21 points higher on