those are the issues that average people, you know, jose, so much of washington and quite frankly so much of the people who are in the entertainment business, i think, are living in a bubble. they have no idea what life is like for the average person. >> former ohio governor ted strickland, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> jose, thank you for having me. >> developing in washington state, officials are making history. turning to an unexpected source of help as they try to contain these fast-moving wildfires that have been spreading throughout the state. this as we learn more about the three firefighters who died battling fires there on wednesday. nbc's miguel almaguer is in washington this morning. miguel. >> for the first time here in state history in washington, they are asking for volunteers, anyone with firefighting experience who can operate heavy machinery is asked to step forward. this is a very dangerous fire in washington state. they ordered new evacuations