that's what he has to say every single day. i don't know fit will work. >> here's the reality, he worked up versus trump, he still looks like he is asleep. >> which trump will tell you gladly. >> he said that other night. he said jeb is an incredibly low energy guy. it's very hard for him to get energy. he got under jeb's skin. >> okay. but what does jeb need to do to sort of deflect? you showed me yesterday an example. like immediately what you would do. >> i was noticing at the town hall meeting he was going through and explaining everything. and at one point in one of my campaigns i got frustrated because a guy that had been a democrat his whole life and liberal switched to the republican party. it was simple. you just go listen, i don't care. if you want to vote for a liberal, i don't really care. he's a liberal. he's done this, this, this, maybe you like that. if i were jeb, maybe you like a guy that supports partial birth