and the unofficial e-mails were co-mingled. you put a very juicy target out there. >> how easy would that be? >> well, fraly, not very difficult if you have the resources and talented foam eeo go after it. they do this all the time against better defended targets than we saw in the loft in the apartment in denver. i think the fundamental issue is to sit here and, ron, you mentioned this, to sit here and the original sin is the original sin. the original sin is actually co-mingling the two accounts and not using a government e-mail server. look, there's a big gray area that exists even in the unclassified government e-mail accounts. but you're fire walled against most wrongdoing there by the fact you're using a government account that has some protections to it. once you remove that, i'm stunned that her staff allowed her to do that in 2009 given the