let me go through some grab bags. what launched our relationship, shall we say, is -- was back four years ago. do you believe president obama is a citizen who was born in the united states? >> well, i don't like talking about it anymore because, honestly, i have my own feelings. i think he should have taken the $5 million. i don't know why he spent $4 million in legal fees to keep his records away. >> i'm talking about the birth certificates. >> maybe the hackers have his records. it will be very -- i mean, his college records. he spent $4 million in legal fees to make sure nobody -- >> you want him to release his. would you release all his? >> i'm proud of mooi my records. if he does it, i'll do it. >> president obama tried to put a ban on lobbyists working in the administration. would do you that? >> that's a pretty good idea. these guys get out and they almost meetly go to work for a company and they have power they shouldn't have. look, when jeb bush raises $114 million, i know those people that gave him the money. i used to be one of them. i gave to everybody. i know those people. he's like a puppet for those people. he's a puppet. those people will take negative