gangs. >> you got the fourth reich and k.b., they're not white supremacist. they're not part of one. they were started by people who were rats and p.c. cases. >> interesting thing about curtis was he claims he's not in a gang. he's not a gang member. he's just a white supremacist. a skinhead. he felt there was a really, really severe difference. >> i'm no part of them. i've never been a part of them, nor will i ever be part of them. those in my mind are weak and lame. and -- they're not white supremacists, nor will they ever be. >> at that point, one of the officers leaned into my ear and said, "if you use that, he is going to get attacked. he's going to get stabbed." >> while inmates like allgeier are aware that talking about gangs could put them in peril, it's a risk they've taken time and time again whether interviewed on "lockup." >> we knew that theoretically