does jeb bush. they both have combativeness deficits when they go after hillary. she destroyed 30,000 e-mails. they should talk about that every day. >> heather mcghee, president of demos. are you fearful of john kasich as republican nominee versus hillary clinton? >> no. i think his brand of compassionate conservativism, expanding mental health crisis, gets him in the door where a lot of americans are, which is anxious about economic ina qualitity. half of americans couldn't pay a $400 bill without going in debt or selling something. they had very little to say for working class americans. >> that goes to the organizers, which was hugh's point about questions -- very quickly. >> i think hillary clinton in some ways, because the e-mail controversy was not explored very adequately by the questioner, and also because of the focus on gender, is one of