issue, he's not a real republican. >> he just ends up in the republican party because it's too far-flung but he's in a whole different category. >> isn't it beautiful that all of these men had fathers in their lives that made this kind of mark that evoked this kind of attention? i look at this -- i mean, it propelled all of them to run for the highest office in the land. we started the show talking about do black lives matter, i think dads matter and these guys are all testament of how important it is to have a father in your life and especially when we know the number one predictor of poverty is not having an active father in your life. >> i'm sorry. that's not quite what the predictor of poverty is. it's dual income households. i just want to clarify that the data is different. i think part of what's important and i think this is part of what you were emphasizing initially because i want to point out poor