can arise that can in fact win the white house. >> so bruce what are these debates going to look like? trump apparently has tapped into a real frustration of career politicians who say one thing, go to washington and do something else and get hooked up in the system and think about themselves instead of the constituents. that is basically where trump is in all of this. how does that sit on the debate stage when he's attacked all of these guys? >> well i think it is important to understand that what is -- the people that are supporting trump are not supporting him because of any positions he holds on any issues. they have an attitude of having a chip on their shoulder that they are being oppressed in some way and he is somehow or other the guy, like in the old network movie, who is just not going to take it anymore. and he has somehow given them voice. and it is the voice of the