he needs to find people around him him, bring people on to his staff that can speak to that point of view. his staff is over 90% white according to the group inclusive. long-time people who have been with him a long time. i do think he's heading in that direction. >> steve, real quickly, if you look at the way hillary, hillary clinton, secretary clinton responded to this she didt a very presidential platform oriented statement which takes her out of the fray. >> and she doesn't put herself in a situation where you have a live audience. >> she learned. in 2007 last time she went to net roots, she was booed. i think she suspected if not that, but something like that would happen if she went last week. >> thank you, alex seitz-wald for taking time this morning in new orleans. one of the people to get