election matchup? >> well she's got a little bit of tension with her own base. right now what we're seeing is her working on that. how she is talking about income inequality, how she is talking about issues of -- >> because there's no passion, exempt among women's groups and others who have long wanted hillary clinton to be the nominee. >> but as a general election proposition, for her the longer this trump thing goes on the better. >> because clearly it is dividing the republicans, jeremy, and creating so much angst among those who can't even get on the stage. here john kasich we haven't discussed yet, one of the most credentialed republicans now declaring, a long-time house budget chair, came up with the balanced budget, worked with democrats, worked across the aisle but has conservative credentials, two elections as the governor of ohio and popular in ohio. 60% favorability and a state