not mistaken he's been on in prime time on nbc for a decade now. >> with a high rated show. >> with a high rated show. but i think it is the point that i was trying to make before lawrence started screaming and calling everybody a liar and i guess maybe that happens in prime time television. we don't do it here. but my point was that here you got a guys that been on a prime time show for over a decade and lawrence is trying to say he's one of the lowest paid people in television. i think this is a perfect example, mark of how some people that are in a echo chamber just don't understand what's going on out there and why donald trump is actually having some working class democrats, independents and republicans following him around. it was really kind of shocking the anger and the rage that