carson, huckabee and santorum. trump is in his own lane. i think that's the challenge. i don't think what trump says today will make a big difference for walker going forward. i want to add one other thing and agree with ari saying not about the college question but talking to republicans the core question is is scott walker the next rick perry? i think if he had three degrees from harvard like mitt romney did i don't think people would be asking that question. >> dana that's the issue, right? as you said you don't want to run as the candidate of harvard generally. and yet, you also want to be competent and it seems he is having trouble, scott walker introducing himself politically, he leads by some accounts in iowa and doing well on the ground and doesn't seem to have passed the competency test yet. >> right. it's the competence. not the degree.