if we grade ourselves on a curve, you can look at donald trump being ridiculous but we're better at this than any country in europe. >> that's important to remember in the midst of this, the dominican republic, forced explosion of people based on a court order that talks about facial features, okay? literally in the court order, if you have full lips and an african nose, okay, you could end up on the wrong bus out of the country. when you compare that to the 14th amendment that says hey, if you're born here you're a citizen, that's a great thing. >> if you go back to when john bing ham framed the 14th amendment, it was so perfectly drafted of the dread scott decision. so looking at this saying we have this decision that says a group of people can never be citizens here, how are we going to radically alter that? the civil rights act of 1866 is passed providing equal rights and so on and people are not entirely sure it's constitutional and it's not until the amendment is ratified