>> i don't cut him any slack at all. >> why do you cut barak obama slack? that's a moral issue. in is a moral issue. >> i think it becomes what can you do about it at what time. what the democratic and you should stress democratic when you say segregation. >> trust me i did. >> a lot of people forget this was run by the democratic party. southern segregation. that was an unspeakable evil for which they were all guilty every day. >> but i'll give a relevant parallel that people around the president pointed to back in 2012. again, you can argue this was rationalization, if you look back at the second world war, there was a long period of time where franklin roosevelt lied to the country about putting american troops in europe. the reason he did it was precisely the reason lauren said. you had to pri the american public opinion along. he said we will not do this.