>> the "new york times" said the payment to clinton and the foundation was about 25% of what they took in. she's looking at it from both sides. not exactly a full throated support there. >> they have a lot -- there is a lot of questions the clintons have to answer but that's part of this process and i think that the running for president it's a magnifying glass unlike any other process. i think that certainly the clintons have been in politics long enough to know, you know what is acceptable and not and where the line is. and sometimes they come close to that line but that doesn't mean they've crossed over it. we're going to get a lot more clarity on these issues as we go forward. >> what about the asia trade plans. as you know steve, when hillary clinton, secretary of state, a big supporter of that the president now finds himself in issues defending the trade bill what is her motivation where she's taking a stand now? >> she isn't taking a stand right now and part of it you see she's in a difficult position. a couple years ago she was for this thing, but if you say those letters, tpp, to this sort of