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citizens united whether it gets overturned or whether it gets expanded as it has ever since citizens united but there's another route for advocates who are not upset with that decision to take and that is a constitutional amendment. a majority of people oppose citizens united but they say it's too hard, it's impossible to have an amendment. history suggests otherwise. and we've had applen amendment that gave women the right to vote. an amendment that created the progressive income tax. popular election of senators. it's just a question that in the congress today, there is the 28th amendment standing there with i think over 140 congressmen and 41 senators for it. but people just feel that they're spectators that there's nothing that they can do. and maybe that's a route that's going to have to be taken rather than hoping that the supreme court changes and you get a president who will do so. >> interesting. in this lead-up to this interview, we pointed out that the supreme court is going to be making some big decisions here. if the supreme court rules

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