top ten destinations for barbecue but one restaurant did make it pappy's smoke house. did st. louis get shafted a bit? >> i tell you what pappy's bogarts, sugar fire salt and smoke, i would defy any city in the country to have as many quality barbecue restaurants as we have in a small vicinity like st. louis, missouri. >> i just did a little road trip through the south myself did barbecue tasting in mississippi and texas and tennessee. there's a big difference between dry rub barbecue and wet sauce barbecue. where does st. louis fit in on that? >> i always say we're in the middle. i call us st. louis sticky. you have more wet in kansas city, you have dry rub in memphis. and st. louis falls somewhere in between where we like a little sauce and you can see in the the dishes we've got prepared this morning. just a light glaze to give you the stickiness. that's the style i say we have. >> sweet and sticky in st. louis. >> so frank let me ask you, what