we're jihadists, and you're ignoring us. you're not doing anything about it. >> okay. here is a great question. based upon what you're looking there in terms of what bin laden, what sort of stuff he has in his apartment there he seemed to be mainly focused on an almost generational hatred of his parents. that's always what he was against in saudi arabia, against us as his sort of economic superiors. i'm going get those bastards. i'm going to drive those people to chaos and bedlam and hell. where as the other people were talking about creating a caliphate. is he primarily negative in his purposes? where as some of these other people seem to be more into creating some sort of islamic new future? there seem to be different directions. >> honestly, i think bin laden recognized what worked. i think he recognized what missions and campaigns and slogans worked. when you're talking about a global jihadi movement made up of factions that have all their own leaders and personality beefs and mini missions and mini campaigns, the one thing that these folks could all agree on, and more or less without debate