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even among people who track this. that doesn't mean he wasn't important to the organization. any intelligence collected at the site might not be valuable especially if he had information connected to financial matters on isis. it still remains to be seen not only what the impact of that raid is, but whether it could lead to feature operations against isis because of any intelligence that was picked up. but it's right to point out that the bigger issue here is, you know, whether isis not only in syria and iraq in whether it's advancing or in retreat. certainly over the weekend, the more significant story seems to be not this one-off raid that killed abu sayyaf but the fall of ramadi. >> i guess i wonder do you get the sense that maybe the pentagon is playing up the killing of sayyaf because of the bad news on ramadi? some would say the pentagon has

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