so sending american troops even the best of most highly trained american commandos like the navy seals or in this case delta force which are like the navy seals of the army even sending the most skilled operators into harm's way carries enormous risk. >> richard, thanks so much for that. joining us don borelli in charge of the joint be terrorism tax force. with a good day to you, let's talk about the hopes of the u.s. in terms of the hopes to.ca tour him alive. when you look at the computers seized or even talking with his wife umm how much information can they get? >> it sounds very positive. obviously he had a key role in finances, communications tactics, military operations so i'd say the computers the cell phones, any handwritten documents, anything of the like are the next best thing to taking him alive. and also this being a bit