the young people in the movement. i think respect that both counters some of how journalists covered movements as recent as occupy. and as distant as the civil rights movement itself. i wonder whether or not you initially approach these movements with a sense of respect for them or whether or not the it is in fact learning in the craft that you come to respect these activists. >> it's a combination of things. i think many of oh us -- for example, many of us who arrived in ferguson when dr are e arrived and netta, the same first days following michael brown's death. a communal space and a communal understanding that was very different than for example, myself as a reporter versus my editor in d.c.