abroad. the gender gap appears to be closing at least when it comes to ceo pay. a usa today report found female ceos make on average $18.8 million a year while male ceos make almost $13 million a year on average. my next guest says women leaders are worth it. >> no. >> what do you mean no? there is no no. >> no. >> you're making a mistake, paul. >> when you walk out of here i won't think of you again. >> every time you see graffiti -- >> you are dead to me. >> that is investor and entrepreneur kevin o'leary from the cnbc show shark tank known as mr. wonderful on the show. kevin joins me now. i hope i'm not dead to you now. >> absolutely not, alex. i'm happy to be here with you today.