we're just finding out now, but it looks like labor got wiped out of their sort of socialist heart. >> it used to be a strong hold. >> and that is a sign that the fortunes of evolution that we saw in the independence referendum are speeding up and the country is fragmenting. and the government that we formed is also committed to a referendum on leading europe, as well. you could see the uk split, europe split. this is momentum stuff. >> talk about that, this possible referendum. cameron has promised a referendum on leaving the european union. >> against his better wishes. i mean, he was forced into it by the forces of english nationalism. the uk independence party, they forced him in that direction. he's in a strong position. clinging on to power is something very few expect him to do. he's going to have to hold that referendum. it's a nervy time. >> how does he handle that? does he campaign against that referendum? >> it's a good question.