baltimore where we were yesterday, it doesn't look like it's reaching out there. >> that's right. it's sort of a derivation of of trickle-down economics of the '80s perhaps. if you look at baltimore in the '80s and early '90s, it was going through the rejuvenation, dollar house program in federal hill harborplace, camden yards, all of which by the way were controversial at the time. >> yep. >> public referendums that were fairly close, state legislature votes that were close. and because of the bravery of certain politicians, those projects were pushed through. and if you look at as you say, the periphery of the baltimore inner harbor it's wonderful. if people come here as tourists they're completely safe. there's no crime problem here in those areas if you're a tourist. but if you live in poor neighborhoods in baltimore, because every criminologist study you look at the overwhelming majority of crime is perpetrated by poor people on other poor people not poor people on middle clas and wealthy and the elite. so the problem is not on the