also a deference to states' definition of marriage. that's been historically a recognition by the supreme court. what has changed, the constitution hasn't changed. a lot of things have happened in the state courts. a majority of the states that have moved toward recognizing gay marriage has done it through judicial fiat versus the legislative process. so the courts really are forcing this issue as to what the supreme court will do. i think it's unpredictable. i think they could continue to give some deference to the states but i do think we'll probably have to clearly recognize what happens in another state. so we'll wait and see. as governor -- >> this became interesting for you. you put it in personal terms. your son, this is when the religious freedom bill you were going to sign, your son petitioned you to veto the bill. you, yourself said on same-sex marriage this is a generational divide. >> well, it is.